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Title: Second foresail
Post by: VROUW KIRSTEN on May 12, 2017, 08:26:17 AM
Just had a discussion regarding style, dimension and benefits of one or two foresails at the Winklebrig. I found several pictures of WB´s with two foresails. Does anyone have experiences with this and may write them down here?

Thanks a lot


Gerold
Title: Re: Second foresail
Post by: Martin on May 15, 2017, 10:38:38 AM
Hello Gerold.
At risk of being accused of 'plugging' my book! I have written a section there about this.
At the time I added a staysail, I took the opportunity of lengthening and strengthening the bowsprit and enlarging the jib. So altogether, I have more sail ahead of the mast (to help with the weather helm) and the added advantage of a more flexible and stronger  (two forestays) rig. In high winds, I furl the jib and sail with the foresail and reefed main, or in even higher winds, the  staysail and mizzen sail (another adition!).
I know you can go on forever modifying the Winklebrig (and I am probably the worst culprit!), but I think a second foresail is a valuable and easy  addition.
Title: Re: Second foresail
Post by: VROUW KIRSTEN on May 19, 2017, 09:04:00 AM
Hello Martin,

I think your book Needs no plugging - it is excellent! ;)

Could you make a photo of the way you fixed the staysail at the boat? I am undecided if I should fix the staysail at the bow sprit or direct at the bow of the winklebrig.
I believe the bow itself would be the right place, but I am not shure which equipment would be the right, f.e. a hull plate or an eye bolt or eye plate. 

Thanks a lot for your help!

Gerold
Title: Re: Second foresail
Post by: Martin on May 31, 2017, 05:54:53 PM
Hello Gerold. Thanks for your kind words.

My foresail arrangement has developed over the years, so I am afraid my present setup has evolved into  rather a complicated arrangement, although it doesn't need to be.

If you fix further forward than the stempost  as I have done, in order to maximise the size of the foresail, you have to have a way of centralising the foot of the sail (as the bowsprit is off-centre), if you want the boat to look symetrical. My solution is best shown by photos, but as I am away from my boat at present I will post some in a couple of weeks when we are reunited again.

Title: Re: Second foresail
Post by: christanner on June 20, 2019, 10:25:27 PM
It's a bit of an old post, but in case it's useful for anyone - my approach to the stem fitting for an inner foresail is a little different from others. I've gone down into the cabin with a large load washer below (it's about 3" aft of the front of the cabin if you drill down where I have). I have a nav light mounted on the front of my stem which makes the fore-aft bolt unviable. This works a treat.